I have enjoyed approving geocaches for the Czech Republic, but due to the increase in volume I think it is time the Czech geocaching community had a local cache reviewer. I have corresponded with some of you, and can think of a few who would probably do a great job. However I think it would be best if the Czech geocachers choose someone to do this job themselves.
The criteria I would expect are: 1) Experience - not necessarily having hundreds of finds, but someone who has geocached for several years and has experience in hiding and finding caches of all sorts. 2) An excellent knowledge of the English language. The geocaching guidelines are in English, and you would need to use English to communicate with the other cache approvers (we are too dumb to know your language). 3) Well respected by the local geocaching community and, if possible, internationally. What I mean by that is you should not have written terrible things in the groundspeak forums. 4) You should preferably have had a leadership position in a local geocaching organization, planned local events, and/or worked with local park managers or news media to gain acceptance of our sport. 5) You should be willing to work hard for no pay, and put up with the possible anger of those who’s caches you will have to decline to approve. 6) You’d likely also have to cover neighboring eastern European countries with similar languages to yours such as Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Poland, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Hungary, though the volume of caches in those countries is very small. 7) You will have to be relentless in adhering to the rules (geocaching guidelines) even though you may not personally agree with them all. For instance you must not approve vacation caches left by those who won’t return to maintain them, you must not approve virtual caches in places where a physical cache could go. You should start asking for the final cache location of multistage caches to be sure they are not too near other caches or that future caches are not placed to near that cache. I have not been doing that for the Czech caches, but as volumes increase you will have to.
I’m not sure what more I can say, but feel free to ask me questions about the job. I would hope that this forum could be used for people to nominate either themselves or others. People who are nominated by others can either accept or decline. Then there could be an election, if that is the way you’d like to do this. Or you can decide with dueling pistols or arm wrestling - whatever works for you. The person who is selected will then be discussed for a week or so by the other cache approvers (that’s why I said you should not have written anything nasty in the groundspeak forums), and if no one has any objections you will be given access to the admin part of geocaching.com to approve caches.
In any event, in a month I’ll be going away for more than a week, and won’t have my PC with me, so you fine folks will have to find someone to replace me within the next few weeks.
Když už tady hlasujuete, mohl byste to někdo přeložit pro nás ostatní (áť taky můžeme hlasovat). Pochopila jsem, že Erik hledá schvalovače se znalostí AJ, který je občasný hledač. Mě osobně do toho zapadá spíš Honza B. (nevím, jak je na tom s angličitnou), který se o nás už teď tak krásně stará
hlada sa approver pre Cesko a vychodnu Europu, poziadavky:
niekolkorocna skusenost s hladanim, najdene rozne druhy caches, skvela znalost anglictiny, respektovany lokalnou/medzinarodnou komunitou cacherov, vodcovstvo (leadership) - organizovanie eventov, spolupraca so samospravou, tazka neplatena praca spojena s celenim hnevu nespokojnych cacherov, schopny dodrzovat pravidla, aj ked s nimi vnutorne nesuhlasi.
Moj nazor je taky, ze sa jedna o dost nevdacnu pracu a dotycny, kedze bude musiet celit svojim kamaratom, sa stane u casti kolegov neoblubenou osobnostou
Kazdopadne ja hlasujem tiez za Haggaeusa - splna podla mna vsetky poziadavky - otazka je, ci je ochotny sa tohto narocneho ukolu chopit.
Vote for Haggaeus :)))
Diky za hlasy. Mame par tydnu na vybirani, hlasovani asi tady ve foru, nebude-li server stavkovat? Hlasovaci event by byl pekny, ale takhle narychlo by se asi nesjelo reprezentativni mnozstvi vychodoevropskych cacheru
pokud by se někdo ptal na můj skromný názor, pak bych při návrzích a volbě zhodnotil nedávnou zkušenost kolem schvalování cache Nekonečné mosty … na to by se nemělo zapomenout. zbytek si přeberte sami
neviem ako to myslis, ci pre alebo proti Haggaeusovi - pri Nikam neveducich mostoch islo o porusenie pravidiel zo strany Pitra a Haggaeus sa ukazal ako strazca pravidiel - co presne approver ma byt :)))
At uz bude novy lokalni reviewer kdokoli, nemyslim, ze by musel delat nejake cistky a uvadet vsechny existujici cache do souladu s aktualnimi pravidly. Viz “grandfathered” cache, tj. schvalene jeste pred zprisnenim pravidel - virtualy na nezajimavych mistech, jake by uz dnes neprosly, cache na pozemcich, kde dnes land management vyzaduje povoleni k umisteni, ba i nejake ty zakopane by se nasly (viz treba First Germany).
S nove registrovanymi cachemi to bude horsi, poznamky typu “nesmi se tam, ale nikdo to nehlida” by reviewerovi znalemu lokalniho jazyka nemely uniknout.
Tak tos me skoro dojal ! Jak salamounsky by ses chtel vymluvit z prachobycejneho nechutneho bonzactvi. Kdyz uz nektery ze svych vyroku “vezmes zpet” a napises to i do logu, tak si za tim alespon stuj a zachovej tvar.
A tvuj "prikladny" prvni SBA u Nikam nevedoucich mostu je IMHO tou nejlepsi nominaci na Erikem poptavanou funkci. Ma-li tedy byt novy reviewer u casti kolegu neobliben, jak kdesi zminuje Saman, mas rozhodne muj hlas :-)))
Me by spis zajimalo. jak to teda prakticky probehne? Kdo navrhne kandidaty? Kdo a kdy volbu vyhlasi?
Navrhoval bych nejdriv ustavit neco jako volebni stab (Saman uz se moznosti byt zvolen vzdal? - Pak by to mohl s jiz osvedcenym talentem zahajit, ale z moznosti byt zvolen neni vyloucen nikdo, pokud to vyslovne sam neoznami ). S hlasovanim v jinych zemich se rekl bych nepocita. Hlavne v prispevcich prosim navrhujte svoje favority, at je priblizna predstava. Kritika je fajn, ale jen negace je trochu malo. Co se neoblibenosti tyce - kazdy mame sveho antikandidata.
Takze taky koho jo a proc, ne jenom koho ne a proc.
Krome jiz zminovanych moralnich “predpokladu” a splneni Erikovych kriterii by mel byt kandidatem pouze ten, kdo “k smrti nenavidi” veskere multi a mystery cache neb bude z titulu sve funkce chte-nechte predem informovan o jejich finalnich souradnicich (behem schvalovaciho procesu) a nebude mu tedy prekazkou, ze si tento typ novych kesi na nasem uzemi a v zemich okolnich uz pravdepodobne nikdy “sportovne” neodlovi. Taktez FTF odlovy mu budou z principu zapovezeny a cast hry tak pro nej muze ztratit jiste kouzlo. A za to vse vystoupi na pomyslny Olymp kariery ve vychodni filialce Groundspeaku a bude moct zdarma pozivat vyhod Premium Membershipu…
Nemel by to tedy byt spis nekdo, kdo uz svuj "konicek" povesil na hrebicek ?
Mam tomu rozumet tak, ze koncis? . Nebo mas (konecne) na mysli nekoho konkretniho? Pokud nekdo tuto roli prijme, urcite si bude vsech uskali vedom. Prave proto mi Haggaeus vyhovuje.
Ale presto - kdyz je kes zverejnena, muze tam kazdy :-).
In case Erik is still watching this thread in a language he doesn’t understand
So far there have been two nominations: for me and for Michal of Dorcadion Team. The rest are some support voices and some hate posts, I guess we should wait until next week for other candidates.
Jak to pozoruju, kandidatura na reviewera se mi zamlouva cim dal vic. FTF zapovezene v miste bydliste me netrapi a takove FTF jako minulou sobotu na cachi u Marianek, ktera tam lezela 3 tydny bez povsimnuti, se mi snad budou tolerovat i nadale. Multi mi staci pri vyletech do Nemecka, i kdyz myslim, ze schvalovane souradnice se mi taky z hlavy brzo vytrati.
V pripade meho zvoleni necekejte zadne prevratne zmeny, reviewer si nemuze vymyslet, ze na svem uzemi zakaze napr. baleni cachi do igelitek, byt to sam povazuje za nechutnost.
Nebylo by na místě vysvětlit měně znalým a mimopražským o co přesně se jedná?
Navíc, pokud má být náznak nějakých voleb a mandátu, tak by měli případní kandidáti říci, co a jak se bude s jejich osobou spojovat …
Mimochodem, prošel jsem si tu “mostní debatu” a uvítal bych jasné a písemné stanovisko k umisťování geocache v CHKO, rezervacích, na neobvyklých mistech a podobně.
4) You should preferably have had a leadership position in a local geocaching organization, planned local events, and/or worked with local park managers or news media to gain acceptance of our sport. 5) You should be willing to work hard for no pay, and put up with the possible anger of those who’s caches you will have to decline to approve. 6) You’d likely also have to cover neighboring eastern European countries with similar languages to yours such as Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, Poland, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Hungary, though the volume of caches in those countries is very small. 7) You will have to be relentless in adhering to the rules (geocaching guidelines) even though you may not personally agree with them all. For instance you must not approve vacation caches left by those who won’t return to maintain them, you must not approve virtual caches in places where a physical cache could go. You should start asking for the final cache location of multistage caches to be sure they are not too near other caches or that future caches are not placed to near that cache. I have not been doing that for the Czech caches, but as volumes increase you will have to.
